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	<title>Comments on: The Flash vs SEO Conundrum</title>
	<link>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/</link>
	<description>Get Awesome Search Engine Rankings for Your Web Site</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/#comment-509</link>
		<author>aaron</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/#comment-509</guid>
		<description>I agree with Nashville.

The solution to this is to simply embed flash content in real web pages like we did on our AURA site -

http://www.aura.net.au/

This is the correct use of Flash in my opinion.

There are also  tags OR using a javascript to determine if Flash is installed and hiding the placeholder content if it is (I have seen Flash sites optimised this way) or syndicating your content in XML/SQL Database and having a Flash and an html version of the same site (this should be done for accessibility reasons anyway).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Nashville.</p>
<p>The solution to this is to simply embed flash content in real web pages like we did on our AURA site -</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aura.net.au/" >http://www.aura.net.au/</a></p>
<p>This is the correct use of Flash in my opinion.</p>
<p>There are also  tags OR using a javascript to determine if Flash is installed and hiding the placeholder content if it is (I have seen Flash sites optimised this way) or syndicating your content in XML/SQL Database and having a Flash and an html version of the same site (this should be done for accessibility reasons anyway).</p>
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		<title>By: Nashville SEO Zombie</title>
		<link>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/#comment-444</link>
		<author>Nashville SEO Zombie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/#comment-444</guid>
		<description>I personal do not work with clients who want flash designs. Before I got into SEO I did freelance design work. I had one client who just HAD to have flash. I hated working on that site so much and they rank on page two for their keyword. If only they went with a text design, they'd have first page status.

I think moderate hidden text is safe. I think a good way to go is to have a text only version of the site available. Not only is it good for SEO, but also accessibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personal do not work with clients who want flash designs. Before I got into SEO I did freelance design work. I had one client who just HAD to have flash. I hated working on that site so much and they rank on page two for their keyword. If only they went with a text design, they&#8217;d have first page status.</p>
<p>I think moderate hidden text is safe. I think a good way to go is to have a text only version of the site available. Not only is it good for SEO, but also accessibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Young</title>
		<link>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/#comment-439</link>
		<author>Brett Young</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 23:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/#comment-439</guid>
		<description>You are absolutely right.  Although flash can be utilized for a very visually appealing presentation, it is tricky to optimize for search engines.

Brett Young
High Ground Realty
&lt;a href="http://www.newpaltzrealestate.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;New Paltz Real Estate&#62;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are absolutely right.  Although flash can be utilized for a very visually appealing presentation, it is tricky to optimize for search engines.</p>
<p>Brett Young<br />
High Ground Realty<br />
<a href="http://www.newpaltzrealestate.com" >New Paltz Real Estate&gt;</a></p>
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		<title>By: William SEO updates</title>
		<link>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/#comment-326</link>
		<author>William SEO updates</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/#comment-326</guid>
		<description>You have provide such an important information in  such a decent way that make sense for every one. I really appreciate explanation of important points like Google see the page as searcher do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have provide such an important information in  such a decent way that make sense for every one. I really appreciate explanation of important points like Google see the page as searcher do.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
		<link>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/#comment-265</link>
		<author>Tracy</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/#comment-265</guid>
		<description>I agree with your thinking, that if Google wants to see what the user sees, then duplicate content in  should not be penalized.  BUT, Google's bots have no way of knowing whether that hidden content is valid (the same as shown in the Flash) or not.  They're certainly not going to take our word for it... they know what we know... that if they give us the benefit of the doubt, pretty soon SE spammers would be out there embedding Flash movies of porn with Check out these great silver-plated teaspoons!  Full Flash, bad. Flash/HTML CSS-driven hybrid, beautiful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your thinking, that if Google wants to see what the user sees, then duplicate content in  should not be penalized.  BUT, Google&#8217;s bots have no way of knowing whether that hidden content is valid (the same as shown in the Flash) or not.  They&#8217;re certainly not going to take our word for it&#8230; they know what we know&#8230; that if they give us the benefit of the doubt, pretty soon SE spammers would be out there embedding Flash movies of porn with Check out these great silver-plated teaspoons!  Full Flash, bad. Flash/HTML CSS-driven hybrid, beautiful!</p>
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		<title>By: RockstarSEO</title>
		<link>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/#comment-209</link>
		<author>RockstarSEO</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/#comment-209</guid>
		<description>I guess that is the million dollar question, which can only really be answered by testing it with non-client sites that don't matter then reporting it back here to share with us all!

Maybe those A/B testers at Seomoz could test this for us!

KRONiS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that is the million dollar question, which can only really be answered by testing it with non-client sites that don&#8217;t matter then reporting it back here to share with us all!</p>
<p>Maybe those A/B testers at Seomoz could test this for us!</p>
<p>KRONiS</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Diva</title>
		<link>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/#comment-50</link>
		<author>SEO Diva</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/#comment-50</guid>
		<description>Thanks for stopping by my blog, Erika. You're certainly right about Flash!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by my blog, Erika. You&#8217;re certainly right about Flash!</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/#comment-49</link>
		<author>Erika</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seodiva.net/2007/11/15/flash-seo-conundrum/#comment-49</guid>
		<description>Great point Kay! Say your comment on SEO Roundtable, and I think Ill start reading some of your blog posts. Flash is such a hairy beauty ain't she!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point Kay! Say your comment on SEO Roundtable, and I think Ill start reading some of your blog posts. Flash is such a hairy beauty ain&#8217;t she!</p>
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